{"podcast":{"title":"AI at Work","slug":"ai-at-work-7563679","podcast_index_feed_id":7563679,"rss_url":"https://api.riverside.fm/hosting/AWt85fIR.rss","website_url":"https://ascendlabs.ai/podcast","image_url":"https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/e3d1894d-98fc-4002-980b-87551e9b63b9/logos/51346e29-43ee-4db4-9765-75b58f27b8ab.png","author":"Matt Graham, Kevin Williams","episode_count":41,"summary":"AI at Work is hosted by Matt Graham (CEO of Rapid Dev) and Kevin Williams (CEO of Ascend Labs). Each week delivers actionable insights on how artificial intelligence is reshaping jobs today, and how you can use it to advance your career. We unpack real-world tools, automation workflows, and emerging roles so you can stop chasing hype and start using AI to get things done. Whether you’re an individual contributor, team lead, or business owner, we show you what to build, what to ask for, and what to look for in a workplace moving at machine-speed.","last_synced_at":"2026-09-11T20:20:42.761760+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-at-work-7563679"},"episode":{"title":"To Lovable or not To Lovable","slug":"to-lovable-or-not-to-lovable","published_at":"2026-08-19T16:54:34+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-at-work-7563679/to-lovable-or-not-to-lovable","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-at-work-7563679","url":"https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/ef67546a028f0cdf909e933373858cc634184c6c0f954a92c0f45cea6cf87d7b/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI4YWFhMzMyZi0wNTYwLTQ1ZDktOTlhMC0xZDkxZjJiNjE5NzUiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJlM2QxODk0ZC05OGZjLTQwMDItOTgwYi04NzU1MWU5YjYzYjkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2MDdjNWM5MmU4YjZhMjQ3ZDYzZTNjZTUiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmE4NWM5MzRiYTQxZjNiZWNiNmI2NmJiL2FpLWF0LXdvcmstY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNi04LTE5X18xNy0xOC0xMi5tcDMifQ==.mp3","audio_url":"https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/ef67546a028f0cdf909e933373858cc634184c6c0f954a92c0f45cea6cf87d7b/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI4YWFhMzMyZi0wNTYwLTQ1ZDktOTlhMC0xZDkxZjJiNjE5NzUiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJlM2QxODk0ZC05OGZjLTQwMDItOTgwYi04NzU1MWU5YjYzYjkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2MDdjNWM5MmU4YjZhMjQ3ZDYzZTNjZTUiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmE4NWM5MzRiYTQxZjNiZWNiNmI2NmJiL2FpLWF0LXdvcmstY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNi04LTE5X18xNy0xOC0xMi5tcDMifQ==.mp3","summary":"Most organizations pick AI tools by asking the wrong question. They benchmark capability, compare feature lists, and choose the most powerful option then wonder why adoption stalls at 10-15% six months later. Kevin and Matt Graham dig into the real selection criteria leaders should be using, and why usability almost always beats raw capability when it comes to organizational ROI. This episode started as a debate about Lovable the vibe coding platform that just raised $400M at a $13B valuation and turned into a broader conversation about what it actually takes to get AI working across an entire organization, not just in the hands of your most technical people. Kevin and Matt cover the Lovable debate from both sides (Kevin's been burned, Matt's a believer), the emerging governance risks of agentic AI tools like Grokbot, why vendor lock-in is a real concern that organizations need to plan for, and where Google, XAI, and the competitive model landscape are actually headed. Key topics covered: ✅ Why usability beats capability as an AI tool selection criterion ✅ Lovable's enterprise evolution what's changed and what hasn't ✅ Vendor lock-in: how to preserve optionality without abandoning a useful tool ✅ Grokbot and agentic AI the governance risks organizations aren't ready for ✅ The competitive model landscape: XAI's rise, Google's pivot, and what it means for token costs ✅ Why spreading AI licenses without organizational context produces nothing Ready to find out where your organization actually stands on AI readiness? https://assessment.ascendlabs.ai/ Want to talk through your AI tool decisions before you commit? tidycal.com/kevinwilliams CHECK OUT KEVIN’S STUFF: Website: https://ascendlabs.ai/ LinkedIn: https://www.google.com/search?q=https ... – Free Tool: Take the https:…","meta_description":"Most organizations pick AI tools by asking the wrong question. They benchmark capability, compare feature lists, and choose the most powerful option then…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2866,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/ai-at-work-7563679/episodes/to-lovable-or-not-to-lovable/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-at-work-7563679/to-lovable-or-not-to-lovable.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}