{"podcast":{"title":"Agentic DevOps : AI Engineering for Infrastructure","slug":"agentic-devops","podcast_index_feed_id":7351100,"rss_url":"https://feeds.transistor.fm/agentic-devops","website_url":"https://agenticdevops.fm","image_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/scfZTdWGzzHd49MpOiduVkac3R3yY0f-h0LBO3yfhQg/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS83MDc2/ZmQxYmZkMjk0NTcx/OTg5MmY2YjBkZjQy/NzYwZS5qcGc.jpg","author":"Bret Fisher","episode_count":11,"summary":"Where LLMs, AI Agents, and MCP tools meet DevOps and platform engineering. How can we humans use non-deterministic, often hallucinating LLMs to automate our infrastructure and help us with the job of software lifecycle management? I’m Bret Fisher, and this is the Agentic DevOps podcast. After the invention of AI Agents and the MCP standard in late 2024, I started this podcast in early '25 with a narrow topic focus… to document and advise how AI Agents, MCP tools, and large language models can be used in the real world for assisting with DevOps automation, platform engineering, and day to day systems operations… a podcast series hopefully without the hand-wavy AI hype or dreams of a pure AI workforce. I'm joined by my co-host, Nirmal Mehta, and expert guests trying to make use of crazy texting robots.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/agentic-devops"},"episode":{"title":"AI Hype vs. Reality. Real Stats from Laura Tacho, CTO of DX","slug":"ai-hype-vs-reality-real-stats-from-laura-tacho-cto-of-dx","published_at":"2025-09-25T20:39:02+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/agentic-devops/ai-hype-vs-reality-real-stats-from-laura-tacho-cto-of-dx","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/agentic-devops","url":"https://agenticdevops.fm/episodes/ai-hype-vs-reality-real-stats-from-laura-tacho-cto-of-dx","audio_url":"https://media.transistor.fm/44e9bb7d/aa846454.mp3","summary":"AI is often overpromised as a silver bullet for productivity, but real data shows its impact is limited by existing developer experience bottlenecks. This episode explores how improving foundational DevOps practices like documentation and CI/CD is actually the prerequisite for successful AI adoption.","meta_description":"Explore the reality of AI in software engineering with Laura Tacho. 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