{"podcast":{"title":"ACCESS","slug":"access-7488327","podcast_index_feed_id":7488327,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/VMP5858892209","website_url":"http://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/access","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/e573ad06-8eb8-11f0-b643-330b960a1a93/image/007878576a94c2b5b3754f9c4c6700d2.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Vox Media","episode_count":42,"summary":"ACCESS is a show about the tech industry’s inside conversation. Hosted by Alex Heath, the most connected tech reporter out there, and Ellis Hamburger, the founder whisperer for today’s hottest AI startups, ACCESS features revealing conversations with Silicon Valley’s most influential leaders, from the tech titans of today to tomorrow’s most interesting entrepreneurs. It’s a show made by insiders for everyone who wants a glimpse into the future and the people building it. Part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-16T22:20:39.076814+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/access-7488327"},"episode":{"title":"OpenClaw for normies is here","slug":"openclaw-for-normies-is-here","published_at":"2026-04-09T12:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/access-7488327/openclaw-for-normies-is-here","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/access-7488327","url":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP2847316540.mp3?updated=1775678478","audio_url":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP2847316540.mp3?updated=1775678478","summary":"Alex and Ellis talk about OpenAI’s acquisition of TBPN, the tension between media and corporate ownership, and why so many people in AI seem to be working themselves into the ground. Then they’re joined by Marvin von Hagen, CEO of Poke, an AI assistant that lives in your texts and connects to everything from your email to your calendar. It's basically OpenClaw for normies. They discuss why Marvin believed in AI agents early, why he thinks texting is the best interface for AI, how Poke handles automation and security, why he sued Meta, and why a billionaire ended up paying $136,000 a month for Poke. Follow ACCESS on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/accesspodcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Alex: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://sources.news/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/alexeheath/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Ellis: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://meaning.company/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/hamburger⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ACCESS is produced in partnership with the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices","meta_description":"Alex and Ellis talk about OpenAI’s acquisition of TBPN, the tension between media and corporate ownership, and why so many people in AI seem to be working…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4152,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/access-7488327/episodes/openclaw-for-normies-is-here/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/access-7488327/openclaw-for-normies-is-here.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}