{"podcast":{"title":"ACCESS","slug":"access-7488327","podcast_index_feed_id":7488327,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/VMP5858892209","website_url":"http://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/access","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/e573ad06-8eb8-11f0-b643-330b960a1a93/image/007878576a94c2b5b3754f9c4c6700d2.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Vox Media","episode_count":42,"summary":"ACCESS is a show about the tech industry’s inside conversation. Hosted by Alex Heath, the most connected tech reporter out there, and Ellis Hamburger, the founder whisperer for today’s hottest AI startups, ACCESS features revealing conversations with Silicon Valley’s most influential leaders, from the tech titans of today to tomorrow’s most interesting entrepreneurs. It’s a show made by insiders for everyone who wants a glimpse into the future and the people building it. Part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-16T22:20:39.076814+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/access-7488327"},"episode":{"title":"Notion's CEO on if AI is really killing software companies","slug":"notion-s-ceo-on-if-ai-is-really-killing-software-companies","published_at":"2026-02-19T14:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/access-7488327/notion-s-ceo-on-if-ai-is-really-killing-software-companies","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/access-7488327","url":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP9139762004.mp3?updated=1771465313","audio_url":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/257/traffic.megaphone.fm/VMP9139762004.mp3?updated=1771465313","summary":"Ellis tells Alex about his storytelling speech for AI founders at Andreessen Horowitz, and they discuss how OpenAI beat Meta to hire the founder of OpenClaw. Then they’re joined by Notion co-founder and CEO Ivan Zhao to talk about the rise of AI agents. They discuss building custom agents inside Notion, his own AI workflow, why he's focused on hiring young people, and why he thinks every software company needs to become agent-friendly to survive. Follow ACCESS on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/accesspodcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Alex: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://sources.news/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/alexeheath/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Ellis: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://meaning.company/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/hamburger⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ACCESS is produced in partnership with the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices","meta_description":"Ellis tells Alex about his storytelling speech for AI founders at Andreessen Horowitz, and they discuss how OpenAI beat Meta to hire the founder of OpenCl…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4507,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/access-7488327/episodes/notion-s-ceo-on-if-ai-is-really-killing-software-companies/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/access-7488327/notion-s-ceo-on-if-ai-is-really-killing-software-companies.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}