{"podcast":{"title":"21 in 21","slug":"21-in-21-7274084","podcast_index_feed_id":7274084,"rss_url":"https://feeds.fountain.fm/225QxxaXdKbEEjEXSha3","website_url":"https://presidiobitcoin.substack.com/s/21-in-21","image_url":"https://feeds.fountain.fm/225QxxaXdKbEEjEXSha3/files/COVER_ART---DEFAULT---4727f3af-abd6-40e2-a3a8-34e875d55259.jpg","author":"Hosted by Haley Berkoe","episode_count":35,"summary":"Haley Berkoe asks some of the biggest names in bitcoin and Silicon Valley 21 questions in 21 minutes, from the personalities you know and love to tech’s unsung heroes. A new episode drops when someone stops by Presidio Bitcoin. Reach out if you are or will be in the area and are interested in being on the show. presidiobitcoin.substack.com","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/21-in-21-7274084"},"episode":{"title":"21 in 21: Jameson Lopp","slug":"21-in-21-jameson-lopp","published_at":"2025-08-07T17:40:56+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/21-in-21-7274084/21-in-21-jameson-lopp","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/21-in-21-7274084","url":"https://feeds.fountain.fm/225QxxaXdKbEEjEXSha3/items/aONOKZftiIMipFT6wFx2/files/AUDIO---DEFAULT---a1ef973d-8251-4e9f-8d56-4f067e102791.mp3","audio_url":"https://feeds.fountain.fm/225QxxaXdKbEEjEXSha3/items/aONOKZftiIMipFT6wFx2/files/AUDIO---DEFAULT---a1ef973d-8251-4e9f-8d56-4f067e102791.mp3","summary":"In this episode, Haley Berkoe chats with Jameson Lopp, longtime bitcoiner, cypherpunk, and Chief Security Officer at Casa, to explore the long-term threats and opportunities facing bitcoin. He discusses his latest bitcoin improvement proposal, how AI can be both a productivity booster and existential risk, and why bitcoin's future hinges on education, sovereignty, and conversation. CHAPTER HIGHLIGHTS 00:51 Lopp’s top of minds: ossification, quantum threats, and protocol evolution. 01:44 An overview of his quantum Bitcoin Improvement Proposal. 06:23 How AI is helping with tooling and security, plus Lopp’s caution on the hype. 07:59 Writer’s block and Lopp’s creative process. 11:55 Lopp’s vision of a sovereign future and concerns about paper bitcoin trends. 15:16 Promoting bitcoin as money without pushing. 16:42 Lopp shares two controversial ideas: cut off quantum-vulnerable coins and use dynamic block sizes. 19:20 What gives him hope, the failures of fiat are bitcoin’s best marketing. 20:17 Don’t buy before you learn. Start with education, then stack. 21:47 Why discussion is the key to bitcoin’s long-term success. FOLLOW: Jameson Lopp: @lopp, https://x.com/lopp Casa: @CasaHODL, https://x.com/CasaHODL Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe Spiral: @spiralbtc, https://x.com/spiralbtc Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin LINKS: Lopp.net Lopps’ BIP: https://github.com/jlopp/bips/blob/quantum_migration/bip-post-quantum-migration.mediawiki Bitcoin Plushie: https://www.uncute.com/collections/everything-else/products/here-comes-bitcoin WATCH THE SHOW: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin","meta_description":"In this episode, Haley Berkoe chats with Jameson Lopp, longtime bitcoiner, cypherpunk, and Chief Security Officer at Casa, to explore the long-term threat…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1365,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/21-in-21-7274084/episodes/21-in-21-jameson-lopp/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/21-in-21-7274084/21-in-21-jameson-lopp.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}