{"podcast":{"title":"21 in 21","slug":"21-in-21-7274084","podcast_index_feed_id":7274084,"rss_url":"https://feeds.fountain.fm/225QxxaXdKbEEjEXSha3","website_url":"https://presidiobitcoin.substack.com/s/21-in-21","image_url":"https://feeds.fountain.fm/225QxxaXdKbEEjEXSha3/files/COVER_ART---DEFAULT---4727f3af-abd6-40e2-a3a8-34e875d55259.jpg","author":"Hosted by Haley Berkoe","episode_count":35,"summary":"Haley Berkoe asks some of the biggest names in bitcoin and Silicon Valley 21 questions in 21 minutes, from the personalities you know and love to tech’s unsung heroes. A new episode drops when someone stops by Presidio Bitcoin. Reach out if you are or will be in the area and are interested in being on the show. presidiobitcoin.substack.com","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/21-in-21-7274084"},"episode":{"title":"21 in 21: Erik Cativo","slug":"21-in-21-erik-cativo","published_at":"2025-10-15T14:43:16+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/21-in-21-7274084/21-in-21-erik-cativo","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/21-in-21-7274084","url":"https://feeds.fountain.fm/225QxxaXdKbEEjEXSha3/items/GCOxJ3Gh5uxCdgGIErJi/files/AUDIO---DEFAULT---691491f4-834f-4ed1-80ed-16587945d804.mp3","audio_url":"https://feeds.fountain.fm/225QxxaXdKbEEjEXSha3/items/GCOxJ3Gh5uxCdgGIErJi/files/AUDIO---DEFAULT---691491f4-834f-4ed1-80ed-16587945d804.mp3","summary":"During Bitcoin Design Week at Presidio Bitcoin, product designer and HRF grantee Erik Cativo joined the show to talk about designing the future of money. We get into his experiments with ecash and bitchat, the magic of bump-to-pay interactions, and how thoughtful UX can make bitcoin feel intuitive, private, and fun. Erik also shares lessons from living in a nearly cashless society, ideas for building “throw-cash” experiences inside apps like Cash App, and why anyone can help design better bitcoin products simply by giving feedback. FOLLOW: Erik Cativo: https://x.com/uxerik_ , https://www.erik.day/ Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin WATCH THE SHOW: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin","meta_description":"During Bitcoin Design Week at Presidio Bitcoin, product designer and HRF grantee Erik Cativo joined the show to talk about designing the future of money.…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1543,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/21-in-21-7274084/episodes/21-in-21-erik-cativo/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/21-in-21-7274084/21-in-21-erik-cativo.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}