{"podcast":{"title":"21 in 21","slug":"21-in-21-7274084","podcast_index_feed_id":7274084,"rss_url":"https://feeds.fountain.fm/225QxxaXdKbEEjEXSha3","website_url":"https://presidiobitcoin.substack.com/s/21-in-21","image_url":"https://feeds.fountain.fm/225QxxaXdKbEEjEXSha3/files/COVER_ART---DEFAULT---4727f3af-abd6-40e2-a3a8-34e875d55259.jpg","author":"Hosted by Haley Berkoe","episode_count":35,"summary":"Haley Berkoe asks some of the biggest names in bitcoin and Silicon Valley 21 questions in 21 minutes, from the personalities you know and love to tech’s unsung heroes. A new episode drops when someone stops by Presidio Bitcoin. Reach out if you are or will be in the area and are interested in being on the show. presidiobitcoin.substack.com","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/21-in-21-7274084"},"episode":{"title":"21 in 21: Alex Pruden","slug":"21-in-21-alex-pruden","published_at":"2025-08-05T15:48:39+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/21-in-21-7274084/21-in-21-alex-pruden","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/21-in-21-7274084","url":"https://feeds.fountain.fm/225QxxaXdKbEEjEXSha3/items/Tbd7OnjFdvoW4gcp3wsC/files/AUDIO---DEFAULT---d708e4cb-3bce-47d3-ba20-2975b2ea1903.mp3","audio_url":"https://feeds.fountain.fm/225QxxaXdKbEEjEXSha3/items/Tbd7OnjFdvoW4gcp3wsC/files/AUDIO---DEFAULT---d708e4cb-3bce-47d3-ba20-2975b2ea1903.mp3","summary":"This episode features Alex Pruden, the Chairman of Aleo and the CEO of Project Eleven, an applied R&amp;D lab focused on the intersection of quantum computing and cryptography. In this conversation with Haley Berkoe, Alex discusses quantum computing, future-proofing bitcoin, user experience upgrades, and his journey from the Army Special Forces to becoming a cryptographer. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: 00:50 Discovering bitcoin in the Middle East 01:42 Project Eleven & why quantum matters 02:46 What it means to be \"quantum-resistant\" 04:50 AI and cryptography 07:02 Learning cryptography from scratch 08:51 Book recommendation: Life and Fate 09:37 What self-sovereignty should look like 11:11 Zero-knowledge on bitcoin 14:05 Bitcoin’s price does not equal success 15:18 Bitcoin UX still needs love and innovation 19:39 Army lessons that shape his work 21:02 Final thought: celebrate, but contribute FOLLOW: Alex Pruden: @apruden08, https://x.com/apruden08 Project Eleven: @qdayclock, https://x.com/qdayclock Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin WATCH THE SHOW: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin","meta_description":"This episode features Alex Pruden, the Chairman of Aleo and the CEO of Project Eleven, an applied R&D lab focused on the intersection of quantum compu…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1412,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/21-in-21-7274084/episodes/21-in-21-alex-pruden/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/21-in-21-7274084/21-in-21-alex-pruden.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}