{"podcast":{"title":"#12minconvos with Jesus Believers","slug":"12minconvos-with-jesus-believers-7774952","podcast_index_feed_id":7774952,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/12minconvoswithjesusbelievers/","website_url":"https://www.12minconvos.com","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/556b5654-0805-4be8-95e9-20f3638219da/12minconvos-with-jesus-Believers-Podcast.png","author":"Engel Jones","episode_count":208,"summary":"#12minconvos with Jesus Believers One Story. 12 Minutes. A Global Echo of Hope. What can happen in 12 minutes? A life can pivot. A heart can heal. A legacy can begin. Welcome to #12minconvos with Jesus Believers, the daily podcast where high-impact storytelling meets the global mission of the Church. Hosted by Engel Jones, this isn’t your typical interview show; it’s a \"flow-versation\" designed to capture the raw, unedited, and transformative power of a single testimony. Why Listen? We live in a world of noise, but your spirit craves truth. Whether you’re on your morning commute, at the gym, or taking a \"Grace Buffer\" break, these 12-minute windows provide a snack of pure inspiration that fuels your Active Faith. Every day at 3:12 AM, we release a new episode featuring a different Jesus Believer from a different corner of the globe. From entrepreneurs and artists to stay-at-home parents and world-changers, we explore the \"new creation\" moments that define what it means to follow Christ in the 21st century. A Monumental Mission When you listen, you aren’t just a consumer; you are a partner in a massive, five-year odyssey. We are currently on a mission to: Record 5,000 New Testimoni…","last_synced_at":"2026-09-19T22:22:05.859900+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/12minconvos-with-jesus-believers-7774952"},"episode":{"title":"Dustin Kleinschmidt: Why He Refuses the Title of \"Pastor\" After 25 Years in Ministry","slug":"dustin-kleinschmidt-why-he-refuses-the-title-of-pastor-after-25-years-in-ministry","published_at":"2026-07-13T19:12:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/12minconvos-with-jesus-believers-7774952/dustin-kleinschmidt-why-he-refuses-the-title-of-pastor-after-25-years-in-ministry","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/12minconvos-with-jesus-believers-7774952","url":"https://www.12minconvos.com","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/f3f29717-0946-47bd-aced-f12076131448.mp3","summary":"Dustin Kleinschmidt grew up outside the faith in a home shaped by instability and trauma, met Jesus in high school, and fell forward into ministry. Over 25 years he served in nearly every pastoral role student ministry, worship, lead pastor, church planter before stepping away after a long season of burnout. Out of that wilderness came The Wilderness Way- a book built on a single honest discovery: this life between rescue and full restoration is the wilderness. Not a season to escape. The permanent terrain where beauty and brokenness coexist, and where God is present and forming us all along. He now writes, and coaches ministry leaders Website: dustinkleinschmidt.com Book: The Wilderness Way: Finding Freedom in Life's Fractures : https://a.co/d/iXX78qP Substack: dustinkleinschmidt.substack.com Instagram: instagram.com/dustinkschmidt Facebook: http://facebook.com/dustin.kleinschmidt","meta_description":"Dustin Kleinschmidt grew up outside the faith in a home shaped by instability and trauma, met Jesus in high school, and fell forward into ministry. Over 2…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":762,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/12minconvos-with-jesus-believers-7774952/episodes/dustin-kleinschmidt-why-he-refuses-the-title-of-pastor-after-25-years-in-ministry/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/12minconvos-with-jesus-believers-7774952/dustin-kleinschmidt-why-he-refuses-the-title-of-pastor-after-25-years-in-ministry.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}