{"podcast":{"title":"100 Words Or Less: The Podcast","slug":"100-words-or-less-the-podcast-312653","podcast_index_feed_id":312653,"rss_url":"https://rss.art19.com/100-words-or-less-the-podcast","website_url":"https://art19.com/shows/100-words-or-less-the-podcast","image_url":"https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/3c/fb/61/fb/3cfb61fb-e4b6-4bcd-97ce-22841b0d91f9/c22f6bb83e79e2c29873ed70b3ee0a39b8872dddafa646a5e2cf60507179828a30214e6b94d8362ceaa4488db5d90163a2a8925b01aeafc1acf5827888c715dd.jpeg","author":"Ray Harkins","episode_count":774,"summary":"Host Ray Harkins dives deep with creators of independent culture from musicians, artists and other interesting people to find out what inspires them, how they came to be and many other unexpected places.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-29T18:17:10.528568+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/100-words-or-less-the-podcast-312653"},"episode":{"title":"Scott Mellinger from Zao & Creation Is Crucifixion","slug":"scott-mellinger-from-zao-creation-is-crucifixion","published_at":"2026-05-06T09:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/100-words-or-less-the-podcast-312653/scott-mellinger-from-zao-creation-is-crucifixion","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/100-words-or-less-the-podcast-312653","url":"https://rss.art19.com/episodes/1dde4208-303c-4691-89b4-4b108c586ce3.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0","audio_url":"https://rss.art19.com/episodes/1dde4208-303c-4691-89b4-4b108c586ce3.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0","summary":"Scott Mellinger has spent decades shaping heavy music from the inside out. Best known as the guitarist and primary songwriter for Zao, his path runs through some of the most forward-thinking corners of underground metal and hardcore that span the chaotic experimentation of Creation Is Crucifixion to the long, evolving arc of Zao’s discography. In this conversation, Scott reflects on what it meant to join Zao at a turning point and help push the band into darker, more atmospheric territory often chasing sounds inspired by bands like Neurosis, even if it started as what he jokingly calls “trying to rip them off.” That instinct to stretch beyond genre expectations became a defining trait of his writing, blending heaviness with tension, space, and mood. We also get into the role of politics in heavy music in how it shows up, when it feels necessary, and when it can miss the mark. Scott speaks candidly about personal belief systems, including the band’s complicated history with Christianity and his own perspective now, and how those shifts shaped both the music and the identity of Zao over time. Weekly Recommendation Playlist brought to you by Evil Greed Apple Music Spotify  Subscribe to the podcast on YouTube Rockabilia sells you officially licensed Merch from ALL your favorite bands (and your Dad's favorite band, your siblings etc...). Use the promo code 100WORDSORLESS for 10% off your order.   Get 10% off your Evil Greed order by using the code NEWWAVE (for a limited time only) See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .","meta_description":"Scott Mellinger has spent decades shaping heavy music from the inside out. Best known as the guitarist and primary songwriter for Zao, his path runs throu…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4426,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/100-words-or-less-the-podcast-312653/episodes/scott-mellinger-from-zao-creation-is-crucifixion/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/100-words-or-less-the-podcast-312653/scott-mellinger-from-zao-creation-is-crucifixion.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}