# Maye Stepping Up as a Leader // Patriots Outlook as Training Camp Approaches // This or That - 7/23 (Hour 2)

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Podcast: [Zolak & Bertrand](https://stenobird.com/podcast/zolak-bertrand-742204)
Published: 2026-07-23T16:00:00+00:00
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(00:00) Hour 2 begins with Zo, Dondero, and Barth discussing what Drake Maye needs to do to take the next step in his career this season. Barth says the run game will dictate Maye’s growth.  (12:48) The guys go to the phone lines to get your thoughts. They discuss the Gabe Jacas saga (22:47) The guys head back to the phone lines to get your thoughts on the Pats and Red Sox. (30:13) This or That See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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