# Is ZK dead? Or has it just begun? with the ZK Pod co-hosts Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/zero-knowledge-1048106/is-zk-dead-or-has-it-just-begun-with-the-zk-pod-co-hosts Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/zero-knowledge-1048106/is-zk-dead-or-has-it-just-begun-with-the-zk-pod-co-hosts.md Podcast: [Zero Knowledge](https://stenobird.com/podcast/zero-knowledge-1048106) Published: 2026-04-22T13:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://zeroknowledge.fm/podcast/399 Audio file: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/bc7a5681-0425-4b9b-bb77-4b264e1adac4.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/zero-knowledge-1048106/episodes/is-zk-dead-or-has-it-just-begun-with-the-zk-pod-co-hosts Duration seconds: 3764 ## Resource In this episode, Anna is joined by co-hosts Guillermo Angeris , Nico Mohnblatt , and Tarun Chitra for a reunion on this 399th episode. They reflect on how they each joined the show and how both the podcast and the ZK space have evolved over time, before diving into discussion on whether ZK is ‘dead’ or simply maturing. They explore its shift from niche research to hype-driven narrative to becoming a widely used but increasingly invisible piece of infrastructure. They go on to discuss the changing landscape of ZK companies, the explosion of new applications, and the trend of teams using ZK as an implicit primitive rather than a headline feature. The episode closes with a broader reflection on decentralisation, usability, and what the next phase of ZK adoption might look like.   Related Links Between Two ZK Events with Nico and Guillermo Building Private AMMs with Guillermo Angeris 2021 < 2022 with Co-hosts & Friends Statistical modeling with PoS systems with Tarun Chitra Indistinguishability Obfuscation (iO) with Huijia (Rachel) Lin Error Correcting Codes & Information Theory with Ron Rothblum How ZK inspired AI Watermarking with Miranda Christ Ethproofs, zkVM Benchmarks & the Unstoppable Rise of ZK with Justin Drake Decentralized Storage Part 1: Looking back Decentralized Storage Part 2: Solutions Verifiable Databases with Shyam & Emanuele from Provably     zkMesh+ live! Subscribe for zkMesh+ and catch the latest State of ZK 2025 report.     **If you like what we do:** * Find all our links here! @ZeroKnowledge | Linktree * Subscribe to our podcast newsletter * Follow us on Twitter @zeroknowledgefm * Join us on Telegram * Catch us on YouTube   **Support the show:** * Patreon * ETH - Donation address * BTC - Donation addre… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/zero-knowledge-1048106/episodes/is-zk-dead-or-has-it-just-begun-with-the-zk-pod-co-hosts/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/zero-knowledge-1048106/is-zk-dead-or-has-it-just-begun-with-the-zk-pod-co-hosts.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.