# E51 - Can Open Source Compete with Harvey and Legora? Mike OSS Founder William Chen

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Podcast: [Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted](https://stenobird.com/podcast/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988)
Published: 2026-05-31T19:38:05+00:00
Episode link: https://ZachAbramowitzisLegallyDisrupted.podbean.com/e/e51-can-open-source-compete-with-harvey-and-legora-mike-oss-founder-william-chen/
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Duration seconds: 2910

## Resource

What happens when a former lawyer looks at the biggest names in legal AI and decides he can build a competing product in two weeks? In this episode, Zach speaks with Will Chen, founder of Mike, an open-source legal AI platform that has quickly gained attention for challenging conventional wisdom in legal tech. They discuss why some lawyers are frustrated with existing legal AI products, the rise of vibe coding, and how AI is making software development more accessible than ever. The conversation also explores open-source legal AI, the growing movement toward law firms building their own tools, and why some believe the future of legal technology may be far more decentralized than today's market leaders expect. In this episode: Why Will believes many legal AI products are little more than thin wrappers around frontier models How vibe coding is enabling lawyers to build software without traditional engineering backgrounds The case for open-source legal AI and local-first deployment in law firms Why more firms are exploring building their own AI tools instead of buying them How AI could lower the barriers to starting a law firm or legal tech company Learn More: https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Follow Along: Will - https://x.com/willchen500, https://hk.linkedin.com/in/will-chen-0bb0a477 Zach - https://x.com/ZachAbramowitz?lang=en, https://www.linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz

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