# E46 - AI for Judges? AAA CEO Bridget McCormack and Learned Hand CEO Shlomo Klapper

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Podcast: [Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted](https://stenobird.com/podcast/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988)
Published: 2026-04-19T20:52:00+00:00
Episode link: https://ZachAbramowitzisLegallyDisrupted.podbean.com/e/e46-ai-for-judges-aaa-ceo-bridget-mccormack-and-learned-hand-ceo-shlomo-klapper/
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Duration seconds: 3047

## Resource

Recording at LegalWeek in New York, Zach sits down with Shlomo Klapper (founder of Learned Hand) and Bridget McCormack, former Chief Justice of the Michigan Supreme Court and now CEO of the American Arbitration Association, to challenge one of the biggest double standards in legal AI: “AI for me, but not for thee.” Lawyers are now widely using AI, but the moment it touches judges or arbitrators, support drops off. That hesitation comes as courts are under real strain, with judges handling thousands of cases a year and only minutes to decide each one, and no realistic way to keep up. Shlomo describes Learned Hand’s “AI law clerk,” built to support judicial research, analysis, and drafting, while Bridget brings the perspective of someone who has both made decisions on the bench and now leads a major dispute resolution institution. The conversation moves beyond AI as an assistant and into a harder shift: AI as part of decision-making itself, and whether the system can continue to function without it. Learn More: Bridget - http://www.aaaicdrfoundation.org/director/bridget-m-mccormack Shlomo - https://www.learned-hand.ai/ Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Follow Along: Bridget - https://www.linkedin.com/in/bridget-mary-mccormack-26700b30 Shlomo - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sklapper Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz

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