# E43 - AI and the Future of In-House Legal, Sandstone Co-Founder Jarryd Strydom Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988/e43-ai-and-the-future-of-in-house-legal-sandstone-co-founder-jarryd-strydom Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988/e43-ai-and-the-future-of-in-house-legal-sandstone-co-founder-jarryd-strydom.md Podcast: [Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted](https://stenobird.com/podcast/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988) Published: 2026-03-19T17:49:27+00:00 Episode link: https://ZachAbramowitzisLegallyDisrupted.podbean.com/e/e43-jarryd/ Audio file: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/24kenek4y5uysdjy/ZALD_-_2026_03_16_-_E43_Jarryd_Sandstone_Edit_19kbev.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988/episodes/e43-ai-and-the-future-of-in-house-legal-sandstone-co-founder-jarryd-strydom Duration seconds: 2386 ## Resource What are in-house lawyers actually doing with AI right now? In this episode, Zach speaks with Jarryd Strydom, co-founder of Sandstone, about what he learned from a cross-country road trip meeting with corporate legal teams across the United States. They discuss how legal departments are experimenting with AI tools, the growing “build vs. buy” debate as lawyers explore vibe-coding their own workflows, and why legacy legal tech infrastructure may struggle in an AI-native world. In this episode: What in-house lawyers across the U.S. are actually doing with AI today The rise of “vibe coding” and the new build vs. buy debate for legal teams Why traditional CLM systems often fail to capture real business context How AI could finally unlock institutional legal knowledge inside companies Why legal teams are being pushed to adopt AI as other departments move faster How AI might reshape the structure of in-house legal teams What junior lawyers should be thinking about in an AI-driven legal market Learn More: Jarryd - https://www.event.law.com/corpcounsel-gcc-east/speaker/2017419/jarryd-strydom Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Follow Along: Jarryd - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jarrydstrydom Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988/episodes/e43-ai-and-the-future-of-in-house-legal-sandstone-co-founder-jarryd-strydom/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/zach-abramowitz-is-legally-disrupted-6704988/e43-ai-and-the-future-of-in-house-legal-sandstone-co-founder-jarryd-strydom.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.