# How YouTube Card Sorting Tests Improve Channel Navigation Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/youtube-marketing-with-fexingo-channel-growth-video-seo-and-long-form-audience-building-7871714/how-youtube-card-sorting-tests-improve-channel-navigation Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/youtube-marketing-with-fexingo-channel-growth-video-seo-and-long-form-audience-building-7871714/how-youtube-card-sorting-tests-improve-channel-navigation.md Podcast: [YouTube Marketing with Fexingo: Channel Growth, Video SEO, and Long-Form Audience Building](https://stenobird.com/podcast/youtube-marketing-with-fexingo-channel-growth-video-seo-and-long-form-audience-building-7871714) Published: 2026-06-30T18:53:05+00:00 Episode link: https://audio.fexingo.com/business/youtube-marketing/episode-0084.mp3 Audio file: https://audio.fexingo.com/business/youtube-marketing/episode-0084.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/youtube-marketing-with-fexingo-channel-growth-video-seo-and-long-form-audience-building-7871714/episodes/how-youtube-card-sorting-tests-improve-channel-navigation Duration seconds: 444 ## Resource Episode 84 of YouTube Marketing with Fexingo dives into card sorting — a UX research method adapted from web design that helps creators organise their video library and playlist structure based on how viewers actually think. Lucas and Luna walk through a real case study of a 50,000-subscriber DIY channel that used an open card sort with 200 viewers to redesign their channel layout. The result: a 22 percent increase in average session duration and a 14 percent bump in subscriber conversion within four weeks. They explain the difference between open and closed card sorting, how to run the test using free tools like Google Sheets or Miro, and why the mental model most creators use for their own content is rarely the one viewers have. If you've ever wondered why viewers don't click 'next video' as often as you'd expect, this episode offers a specific, testable fix. #YouTubeMarketing #CardSorting #ChannelNavigation #UXResearch #ViewerBehavior #VideoSEO #ContentOrganization #PlaylistStrategy #AudienceInsight #SessionDuration #SubscriberConversion #DIYChannel #Miro #GoogleSheets #CreatorTips #Marketing #FexingoBusiness #BusinessPodcast Keep every episode free: buymeacoffee.com/fexingo ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/youtube-marketing-with-fexingo-channel-growth-video-seo-and-long-form-audience-building-7871714/episodes/how-youtube-card-sorting-tests-improve-channel-navigation/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/youtube-marketing-with-fexingo-channel-growth-video-seo-and-long-form-audience-building-7871714/how-youtube-card-sorting-tests-improve-channel-navigation.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.