# The Power of Conversation, with Adrienne Shoch, Founder, 5 to 1 Consulting

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Podcast: [Your World of Creativity](https://stenobird.com/podcast/your-world-of-creativity-1318809)
Published: 2026-03-23T06:15:00+00:00
Episode link: https://markstinson.captivate.fm/episode/adrienne-shoch
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Have you ever walked out of a meeting feeling misunderstood, over-explained, or like your best ideas never landed the way you intended? Today’s episode is all about the hidden power of conversation —and how better listening, clearer communication, and stronger trust can unlock creativity, alignment, and real momentum inside any team or organization. Today, I’m joined by Adrienne Shoch , Founder of 5 to 1 Consulting . Adrienne brings more than 25 years of global experience in communication-focused leadership and team development. Her work blends communication science, positive leadership, neuroscience, and awareness practices to help leaders and teams create meaningful, lasting change. Adrienne's Website LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrienne-shoch/ Book: https://a.co/d/be0u3kH Adrienne has led Thales University North America, managed HR across Europe as an expatriate for CGI/AMS, consulted for the World Bank, facilitated at Wharton Executive Education, and guest lectured at Salisbury University and UNC Asheville. She’s authored a business case quantifying something staggering: the $1.2 trillion annual cost of poor communication in U.S. businesses . She also recently contributed a chapter to the new book Lives Lost and Leadership Found https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrienne-shoch/ 1) Why Conversation Quality Is a Competitive Advantage Adrienne, you’ve made a bold claim that conversational excellence isn’t a “soft skill”—it’s a hard business driver with measurable impact. Where do most organizations underestimate the cost of poor communication, and what’s the most surprising consequence you’ve seen play out in the real world? 2) The $1.2 Trillion Problem You quantified the annual cost of poor workplace communication at $1.2 trillion in the U.S.—that’s not a roundin…

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