# 117. Do No Harm: Upholding the Veterinarian’s Oath with Dr. Margo Roman Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/your-natural-dog-with-angela-ardolino-4502573/117-do-no-harm-upholding-the-veterinarian-s-oath-with-dr-margo-roman Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/your-natural-dog-with-angela-ardolino-4502573/117-do-no-harm-upholding-the-veterinarian-s-oath-with-dr-margo-roman.md Podcast: [Your Natural Dog with Angela Ardolino](https://stenobird.com/podcast/your-natural-dog-with-angela-ardolino-4502573) Published: 2025-10-16T07:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://share.transistor.fm/s/66783bcd Audio file: https://media.transistor.fm/66783bcd/493260eb.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/your-natural-dog-with-angela-ardolino-4502573/episodes/117-do-no-harm-upholding-the-veterinarian-s-oath-with-dr-margo-roman Duration seconds: 2248 ## Resource On this episode of Your Natural Dog, Angela sits down with Dr. Margo Roman, a veterinarian with over 47 years in practice, to talk about what the veterinary oath really means, and what happens when vets try to speak openly about holistic or integrative pet care. Dr. Roman shares how her Massachusetts veterinary license was suspended for two years after she emailed clients about ozone and homeopathic options, which she’s now appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court after losing at the state level. Angela and Dr. Roman also discuss why they believe “do no harm” requires a fuller toolbox: acupuncture, microbiome work, ozone, nutrition, herbs, and the importance of ongoing education after vet school. The conversation looks at how policies, liability fears, and funding ties can discourage open discussion of holistic pet care. They also cover the “spectrum of care” model for real-world budgets, the debate over rabies titers and vaccine exemptions, why gut health is foundational, and practical ways pet parents can stay informed and advocate for more options. Episode Recap: Angela tees up free speech, the veterinarian’s oath, and why Dr. Roman’s case matters to pet parents. (00:08) The Veterinarian’s Oath, and how it extends beyond what’s taught in school. (03:15) Dr. Roman describe the lack of options being offered to pet parents by conventional veterinarians, and they discuss the declining numbers of holistic veterinarians. (04:49) Why continuing your veterinary education, from acupuncture to microbiome science, is essential to the “do no harm” oath, and how ignoring proven alternative modalities amounts to denying care.(07:55) Angela shares her experience getting an FDA letter and the pressure to stay silent about holistic education and testimonials. (10:12) Dr. Roman shares the… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/your-natural-dog-with-angela-ardolino-4502573/episodes/117-do-no-harm-upholding-the-veterinarian-s-oath-with-dr-margo-roman/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/your-natural-dog-with-angela-ardolino-4502573/117-do-no-harm-upholding-the-veterinarian-s-oath-with-dr-margo-roman.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.