# 189. Healing a Profession in Crisis: Kathleen Mills on Breaking Free from Psychology's Woke Matrix Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/you-must-be-some-kind-of-therapist-5142473/189-healing-a-profession-in-crisis-kathleen-mills-on-breaking-free-from-psychology-s-woke-matrix Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/you-must-be-some-kind-of-therapist-5142473/189-healing-a-profession-in-crisis-kathleen-mills-on-breaking-free-from-psychology-s-woke-matrix.md Podcast: [You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist](https://stenobird.com/podcast/you-must-be-some-kind-of-therapist-5142473) Published: 2025-11-24T09:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://share.transistor.fm/s/1d28b0d2 Audio file: https://pdcn.co/e/media.transistor.fm/1d28b0d2/f7e5f084.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/you-must-be-some-kind-of-therapist-5142473/episodes/189-healing-a-profession-in-crisis-kathleen-mills-on-breaking-free-from-psychology-s-woke-matrix Duration seconds: 5270 ## Resource In this powerful conversation, I sit down with Kathleen Mills, a licensed professional counselor and co-founder of the Association for Mental Health Professionals (AMHP). Together, we explore the seismic shifts happening in the mental health field and why so many therapists are feeling disillusioned with the profession's current direction. Kathleen shares her journey from running a successful group practice for over 30 years to founding AMHP as a response to what she sees as the profession's failure to truly heal people. We dive deep into the mind-body-spirit approach to healing that challenges the traditional "neck-up" therapy model, discussing why medication isn't the answer and how the counseling profession has lost the trust of the public. This episode explores critical questions about professional integrity, the impact of woke ideology on therapy, and the rise of coaching as an alternative to traditional counseling. Kathleen doesn't hold back in her critique of how our field created the "gender affirming care nightmare" and social justice warrior mentality that's dividing rather than healing families. Whether you're a mental health professional questioning the status quo or someone seeking genuine healing, this conversation offers hope for a new paradigm in mental health care. Kathleen Mills, LPC-S, CEAP, CIMHP, is a seasoned therapist and mental health professional with over 30 years of experience. Founding LifeTree Counseling in 1992, she employs a holistic "Six Pillars" therapeutic approach that addresses comprehensive life wellness. As a spiritually-motivated counselor, Kathleen guides clients toward restoration and purpose with grace. Beyond clinical practice, Kathleen is passionate about supporting mental health professionals through PracticeMentors.us , whe… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/you-must-be-some-kind-of-therapist-5142473/episodes/189-healing-a-profession-in-crisis-kathleen-mills-on-breaking-free-from-psychology-s-woke-matrix/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/you-must-be-some-kind-of-therapist-5142473/189-healing-a-profession-in-crisis-kathleen-mills-on-breaking-free-from-psychology-s-woke-matrix.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.