# Watching Yoshida Katsunori on YouTube — as a cave explorer

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Podcast: [*“Yesterday, I Went to Mars ♡”*](https://stenobird.com/podcast/yesterday-i-went-to-mars-7106663)
Published: 2026-07-10T03:38:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/makotowillolympusmons/episodes/Watching-Yoshida-Katsunori-on-YouTube--as-a-cave-explorer-e3lucu6
Audio file: https://anchor.fm/s/fcce555c/podcast/play/122679686/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-11%2F3910f30f-e0eb-3a79-612c-de1038d9fa36.mp3
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## Resource

This episode looks at a video from cave explorer Yoshida Katsunori, and two ideas from it that refuse to stay underground. The first is his definition of panic — not just fear, but the moment you lose control of yourself. Inside a cave, the instinct to move, to search, to breathe harder is exactly what kills you. His method is the opposite: close your eyes, slow down, narrow your focus to the single millimeter in front of you. The same overflow happens above ground too, when thinking too far ahead locks everything up and nothing gets done. The second is his view on risk — that without challenge, life goes flat. He enters caves knowing he might not come back out, and enters anyway. That accumulation of chosen risk is what shapes a person. A life of only sensible choices can feel safe while something quietly wears away. There's a tension between the two ideas — narrow everything down, and yet keep moving toward risk — but probably it isn't a contradiction. Narrowing the view is for surviving the moment. Taking the risk is for building what comes after. A quiet look at what cave survival turns out to share with ordinary life, and what it might mean to stay awake to both.

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