# Ep. 7: Tamara Saviano

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Podcast: [Writing Forward](https://stenobird.com/podcast/writing-forward-7845810)
Published: 2026-06-17T10:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

Writing Forward welcomes Tamara Saviano , cultural historian, Grammy Award-winning music producer, and author of the books "Poets and Dreamers: My Life in Americana Music," "The Most Beautiful Girl: A True Story of a Dad, a Daughter and the Healing Power of Music," and "Without Getting Killed or Caught: The Life and Music of Guy Clark," which won the Belmont Award from the International Country Music Conference. In this episode, Tamara discusses her longtime friendship with Kris Kristofferson, how a dustup with Charlie Daniels got her blackballed by the country music establishment, and why an obscure book from the 1960s convinced her to move back to Wisconsin. Watch the documentary "Without Getting Killed or Caught." Writing Forward is a conversation show exploring what keeps Wisconsin writers moving forward, one word at a time. Hosted by Jeff Oloizia. Podcast production by Anya van Wagtendonk. If you like what you hear, follow Writing Forward on Instagram and Substack .

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