# Hail, Heat, and Forest Fires Under a Super El Niño

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Podcast: [WORT 89.9FM Madison](https://stenobird.com/podcast/wort-89-9fm-madison-6475612)
Published: 2026-07-24T18:37:22+00:00
Episode link: https://soundcloud.com/wort-fm/hail-heat-and-forest-fires
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## Resource

Monster storms, too much rain, not enough rain, hail, and heat have become more prevalent in a political context made worse by a fossil-fuel cozy federal government. On today’s show, host Esty Dinur speaks with Dr. Michael Mann about climate change, super El Niño, and the Trump administration’s attacks on environmental protections. Featured image: a temperature map of El Niño from 2003.

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