# Making Way for Sharks and Rays: Where Do We Go From Here? With Sarah Fowler & Rima Jabado

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Podcast: [World of Sharks](https://stenobird.com/podcast/world-of-sharks-6884324)
Published: 2025-12-11T05:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://wholetoothpod.podbean.com/e/making-way-for-sharks-and-rays-where-do-we-go-from-here-with-sarah-fowler-rima-jabado/
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## Resource

The conversations that shape the fate of sharks and rays rarely happen in quiet laboratories or out at sea. More often, they unfold in fluorescent-lit halls, behind nameplates and microphones, inside sprawling congress centres where global decisions about nature are made. At the IUCN World Conservation Congress, surrounded by thousands of delegates debating the future of biodiversity, host Isla sat down with SOSF Scientific Advisor Sarah Fowler and Chair of the IUCN Shark Specialist Group, Dr Rima Jabado, to discuss how far we’ve come in the race to save sharks and rays from extinction – and what steps we need to take next to ensure their future on this planet. Shownotes: www.saveourseas.com/worldofsharks/podcast Find out more about the Save Our Seas Foundation (SOSF) here: www.saveourseas.com or follow @saveourseasfoundation across all platforms.

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