# Making Skills the Currency of Opportunity with Haley Glover

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Podcast: [Workplace Stories by RedThread Research](https://stenobird.com/podcast/workplace-stories-by-redthread-research-3600959)
Published: 2025-08-27T06:00:08+00:00
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## Resource

Haley Glover, Senior Director of UpSkill America at the Aspen Institute, is on a mission to build a world where skills—not degrees or pedigrees—are the primary currency of career opportunity. In this expansive conversation, she challenges organizations to think bigger, arguing that investing in frontline workers isn't just a corporate responsibility but a societal imperative that strengthens communities and economies alike. Glover shares her vision for a future where "all learning counts," and individuals own their skills data, freeing it from the silos of employers and academic institutions. Listen in for a dose of realistic optimism on one of the most complex—and human—challenges in the world of work today. You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in... [00:00] Intro. [03:34] Why skills are a societal issue, not just a corporate one. [13:31] Building a realistic ROI case for skills investments. [19:32] The "All Learning Counts" vision for skills recognition. [24:01] Why the next decade of skills innovation will be "messy." [27:56] The cultural blockades preventing a skills-first hiring revolution. [36:11] The evolving role and responsibility of the employer. [42:25] A real-world example of a company getting it right. Resources & People Mentioned UpSkill America at the Aspen Institute James By Percival Everett The Brothers K by David James Duncan Connect with Haley Glover Haley Glover on LinkedIn Connect With Red Thread Research Website: Red Thread Research On LinkedIn On Facebook On Twitter Subscribe to WORKPLACE STORIES

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