# Hiring as Improv: Embracing the Unscripted in Job Searches (EP.85) Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/work-shouldnt-suck-717180/hiring-as-improv-embracing-the-unscripted-in-job-searches-ep-85 Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/work-shouldnt-suck-717180/hiring-as-improv-embracing-the-unscripted-in-job-searches-ep-85.md Podcast: [Work. Shouldnt. Suck.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/work-shouldnt-suck-717180) Published: 2025-08-21T10:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.workshouldntsuck.co/podcast2/ep85 Audio file: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/4db58ba4-e6c5-4362-b5af-9349bc1c9765.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/work-shouldnt-suck-717180/episodes/hiring-as-improv-embracing-the-unscripted-in-job-searches-ep-85 Duration seconds: 2722 ## Resource In this episode, we explore what it means to approach hiring as improvisation—especially from the perspective of job seekers navigating ambiguous, pressure-filled, and often inequitable processes. Joining host Tim Cynova are two brilliant minds who live at the intersection of the performing arts and organizational transformation: Courtney Harge, founder of CHarge Advisory Hub and Kate Stadel, General Manager of Arts at YMCA Calgary. Both bring deep experience in theater and arts leadership—and share how their training has shaped how they build teams, lead organizations, and show up in interviews. We explore: Why job seekers rarely get a full script—and how to adapt when you’re handed a vague prompt How theater skills like reading a room, holding tension, and embracing failure help candidates and hiring managers alike What hiring managers can do to reduce unnecessary ambiguity and bring more care and intention into the process Why “just be yourself” is both true and insufficient advice—and how to pick which version of yourself to show up as Why sometimes the goal is to “interview to get fired”—so you and the organization can learn quickly if it’s a fit Whether you’re hiring, job seeking, or just rethinking the systems we all move through, this episode offers insight, laughter, and plenty of permission to improvise. Highlights: Meet the Guests (01:28) Theater Skills in Leadership and Hiring (02:50) The Art of Storytelling in Job Interviews (07:05) Embracing Feedback and Authenticity (08:54) Reimagining the Job Seeking Process (20:03) Evaluating Candidates Beyond Skills (22:53) The Purpose of Interview Questions (23:42) Challenging Traditional Hiring Practices (24:49) Authenticity in Job Interviews (27:17) The Importance of Values and Kindness (28:05) Navigating Interview… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/work-shouldnt-suck-717180/episodes/hiring-as-improv-embracing-the-unscripted-in-job-searches-ep-85/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/work-shouldnt-suck-717180/hiring-as-improv-embracing-the-unscripted-in-job-searches-ep-85.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.