# Co-CEO Chronicles: Navigating Growth, Change, and Complexity (EP.84)

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Podcast: [Work. Shouldnt. Suck.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/work-shouldnt-suck-717180)
Published: 2025-08-18T10:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.workshouldntsuck.co/podcast2/ep84
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## Resource

Discover the real-world lessons of co-leadership in this two-part conversation with Americans for the Arts’ interim Co-CEOs, Suzy Delvalle and Jamie Bennett. Recorded at the start and end of their nine-month shared leadership journey, host Tim Cynova explores how they divided responsibilities, built trust, navigated challenges, and embraced the benefits of having two leaders at the helm. From the decision to take the roles together, to the cultural shifts and surprises along the way, this episode offers candid insights for executives, boards, and organizations exploring interim leadership, shared power, and values-driven change. We explore: How the co-leadership arrangement came together and why neither would have said yes without the other Structuring responsibilities, building trust, and navigating shared decision-making in a high-profile national nonprofit The benefits—and surprises—of having two leaders instead of one, both internally and externally How interim roles can create space for experimentation, transparency, and cultural change Lessons for boards, staff, and leaders considering co-leadership or shared power models Part One captures Suzy and Jamie’s hopes, plans, and questions as they begin. Part Two—where Tim is joined by podcasting’s favorite co-host Lauren Ruffin—unpacks what worked, what didn’t, and what they wish they’d had time to do. Whether you’re curious about co-leadership, fascinated by interim executive roles, or wondering how to lead in turbulent times, this episode offers an honest, behind-the-scenes look at shared leadership in practice. Listen in and discover: How two leaders, one job, and a finite timeline reshaped an organization’s transition—and their own perspectives on leadership. Highlights: 00:00 Introduction and Podcast Episode Orig…

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