# Ep 61: Stop Calling Neuro Divergent People Superheroes: Here's What We Need To Do Instead Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/words-that-change-lives-6703362/ep-61-stop-calling-neuro-divergent-people-superheroes-here-s-what-we-need-to-do-instead Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/words-that-change-lives-6703362/ep-61-stop-calling-neuro-divergent-people-superheroes-here-s-what-we-need-to-do-instead.md Podcast: [Words that Change Lives](https://stenobird.com/podcast/words-that-change-lives-6703362) Published: 2025-03-31T01:30:00+00:00 Episode link: https://words-that-change-lives.captivate.fm Audio file: https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/2b3075f5-735e-4df9-8b24-cd828687d47a/WTCL-Ep-61-Stop-Calling-Neuro-Divergent-People-Super-Heroes-Her.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/words-that-change-lives-6703362/episodes/ep-61-stop-calling-neuro-divergent-people-superheroes-here-s-what-we-need-to-do-instead Duration seconds: 3118 ## Resource What does it really mean to communicate effectively in the digital world, especially for those who are neurodivergent? Helen explores the challenges and experiences neurodivergent individuals face, both in educational settings and the workplace. Joined by guest Lisa Kerr, a neurodiversity coach, they explore why labelling neurodivergent individuals as superheroes can be more harmful than helpful and emphasise the importance of understanding and meeting individual needs.  Here are the highlights: 00:00 The current landscape and why this is important 05:51 Modern communication lacks physical presence, making genuine eye contact difficult. 11:07 One-size-fits-all approaches don't work for neurodivergent people. 13:12 Awareness of neurodiversity doesn't always equate to proper understanding. 19:13 A child struggled in a mainstream school due to being bullied but thrived in a specialist school for neurodivergent students. 22:29 Struggles with organisation are common for neurodivergent people 26:19 Challenging instant responses is needed to reduce overwhelm. 32:05 Create a separate channel for Lisa's actions with clear, concise requests, including what, why, and when, to prevent missed tasks. 35:52 A neurodivergence diagnosis can be challenging and lengthy. 42:25 Neurodivergent burnout after starting my own business. 47:14 It's about efficiently streamlining and simplifying people's strategy for clearer communication and addressing challenges holistically. 48:55 Helping leaders understand and accept challenges and burnout, enabling personal and organisational growth. About Lisa Kerr: Lisa Kerr is a Neurodiversity Coach, Business Consultant and Professional Speaker.  As a Chartered Accountant with a Corporate Finance and HR background she spent more than 20 years in… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/words-that-change-lives-6703362/episodes/ep-61-stop-calling-neuro-divergent-people-superheroes-here-s-what-we-need-to-do-instead/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/words-that-change-lives-6703362/ep-61-stop-calling-neuro-divergent-people-superheroes-here-s-what-we-need-to-do-instead.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.