# C'est la vie! How The Netherlands' Claude uses the circle of fourths at Eurovision 2025

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Podcast: [Wiwibloggs: The Eurovision Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/wiwibloggs-the-eurovision-podcast-519569)
Published: 2025-05-13T11:55:22+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1092

## Resource

Claude Kiambe will sing for The Netherlands at Eurovision 2025. Born in the Congo before fleeing to Europe aged 9, Claude is recognised for his merging of languages in much of his music. But does his song C'est La Vie have what it takes to rouse audiences all over Europe? In this episode of What Really Happened at Eurovision? Professor Joe Bennett, musicologist from the Berklee College of Music, tells us about C'est La Vie and the circle of fourths - and how musical greats have been use the chord progression to capture audiences. Presenters: Freddy: http://instagram.com/freddyt234 William: http://instagram.com/williamleeadams

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