# With Liberty & Justice for Some Ep. 66 – Blowing the Whistle on ICE with Ryan Schwank

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Podcast: [With Liberty and Justice for Some](https://stenobird.com/podcast/with-liberty-and-justice-for-some-7203009)
Published: 2026-05-13T15:32:52+00:00
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## Resource

Thanks to a whistleblower, we now know ICE was inadequately training new agents and teaching practices that violate the Fourth Amendment. On today’s podcast, I spoke with Ryan Schwank, who blew the lid off their training failures.

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