# Episode 61 – Discussing USAID with Allison McManus

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Podcast: [With Liberty and Justice for Some](https://stenobird.com/podcast/with-liberty-and-justice-for-some-7203009)
Published: 2026-04-09T19:27:47+00:00
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## Resource

USAID’s funding was only about 0.5% of our total budget, yet its impact has been felt around the world. It provides health and education to some of the most impoverished people on the planet, saving millions of lives every year. But in early 2025, Trump took a sledgehammer to USAID, crushing our humanitarian efforts & diplomatic influence on the world stage. I had a great discussion with Allison McManus with the Center for American Progress on the importance of USAID and what comes next.

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