# Episode 52 with Rachel Bitecofer

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Podcast: [With Liberty and Justice for Some](https://stenobird.com/podcast/with-liberty-and-justice-for-some-7203009)
Published: 2026-02-04T17:41:40+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/rep-mark-pocan/episodes/Episode-52-with-Rachel-Bitecofer-e3eku5d
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Duration seconds: 2706

## Resource

Disclaimer: This episode contains strong language. There is a lot going on, and sometimes it’s hard to keep track. For today’s podcast, I had a great discussion with Rachel Bitecofer on how to make sense of it all, including ICE, tariffs, Greenland, and more!

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