# Episode 32: The Fantastic Four's Connection to The Scarecrow's First Origin

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Podcast: [Why Not Say What Happened?](https://stenobird.com/podcast/why-not-say-what-happened-7069512)
Published: 2026-05-01T19:53:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1392

## Resource

This time around, I reminisce about what it meant to have met Gerry Conway in 1971 when I was only 16, the comic book comrades I should have known better but never gave myself the chance, my dreams of decluttering with Bernie Wrightson, the first two origin stories I thought up for The Scarecrow before the one fans got to read in 1975, and more.

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