# What Trump’s Immigration Policy is Really Doing with David Bier

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Podcast: [Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/why-is-this-happening-the-chris-hayes-podcast-67709)
Published: 2026-03-17T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

David Bier, director of immigration studies at the Cato Institute, joins WITHpod to discuss the ways in which legal paths to immigration have been interrupted, coalitional cross pressures and more.

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