# The ‘Hellish Cauldron’ of American Politics with Alex Wagner

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Podcast: [Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/why-is-this-happening-the-chris-hayes-podcast-67709)
Published: 2026-06-23T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Well, we just wrapped our special 8-part miniseries “The AI End Game,” and we’re back to regular new episodes of WITHpod. There’s a lot to discuss since the start of the miniseries a few weeks ago. Alex Wagner is an MS NOW senior political analyst and the host of “Runaway Country” on Crooked. She’s also the author “How the Hell with Alex Wagner” on Substack. She joins WITHpod to discuss the real pain everyday Americans are feeling, why she believes the script for an impending Trump political defeat is already written and more.

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