# The AI End Game: The Ethics of AI with Timnit Gebru

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Podcast: [Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/why-is-this-happening-the-chris-hayes-podcast-67709)
Published: 2026-05-26T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Timnit Gebru founded the Distributed AI Research Institute after her high-profile exit from Google’s Ethical AI team. She’s been a vocal critic of the systemic lack of diversity in learning models and the need for more inclusion in the space. Her view is that because AI so heavily relies on human input, it largely mirrors pervasive biases inherent in society. What needs to be done to change that? She joins WITHpod to discuss what, in her view, large language models are missing.

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