# Episode 251: Zack Ogle and Aaron Pagniano (Co-writers/directors: IT NEED EYES)

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Podcast: [Who's There? A Podcast About Horror Fans](https://stenobird.com/podcast/who-s-there-a-podcast-about-horror-fans-2163425)
Published: 2026-03-30T08:00:00+00:00
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Show Notes: This week I am sharing a conversation with the co-writers and co-directors of an indie horror film called It Needs Eyes, Aaron Pagniano and Zack Ogle. It Needs Eyes is about what happens when a troubled teen moves to her aunt's coastal house, where she escapes into dark corners of the internet and her fixation on a mysterious missing woman's videos leads to disturbing discoveries about the digital underworld and her own secrets. It is a very jarring and disturbing movie that I really enjoyed watching. Zack and Aaron told me how they fell in love with horror, what kinds of horror still scares them, and why they love the subgenre of horror movies about women who are right but everyone thinks they’re crazy. They told me how they came up with the idea for It Needs Eyes and what the filming process was like. Zack and Aaron’s Socials: Formidable File Films: https://www.instagram.com/formidablefilefilms/ Aaron’s IG: https://www.instagram.com/pagnarok33/ Zack’s IG: https://www.instagram.com/zackogre/ It Needs Eyes: https://mubi.com/en/us/films/it-needs-eyes Who’s There? Socials: Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/whostherepc.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/whostherepc Email: whostherepc@gmail.com Website: https://www.whostherepodcast.com Join the Email List: https://mailchi.mp/4a109b94d3bc/newsletter-signup

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