# Drew Carey & Marc Vahanian

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Podcast: [Where Everybody Knows Your Name with Ted Danson and Woody Harrelson (sometimes)](https://stenobird.com/podcast/where-everybody-knows-your-name-with-ted-danson-and-woody-harrelson-sometimes-6904724)
Published: 2026-03-04T05:05:00+00:00
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## Resource

Drew Carey joins Ted Danson and their friend Marc Vahanian for a conversation about shame, forgiveness, and our society’s justice system. Marc is the founder of Pathway to Kinship, an organization that brings hope, healing, and resources to the formerly incarcerated. To help continue the work of Pathway to Kinship, consider making a gift today. Like watching your podcasts? Visit http://youtube.com/teamcoco to see full episodes.

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