# The Predictable Fall of Noem - a conversation with Malcolm Nance

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Podcast: [When You Know You Know](https://stenobird.com/podcast/when-you-know-you-know-6665059)
Published: 2026-03-06T13:04:00+00:00
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## Resource

Michael’s first guest in this new era is Malcolm Nance, a globally recognized intelligence and national security expert, bestselling author, and former U.S. Navy Senior Chief Petty Officer specializing in counterterrorism and intelligence operations. Nance has spent decades analyzing global threats, advising on national security, and providing insight into geopolitical strategy. He is also the author of several influential books on extremism, cybersecurity, and international security. In this powerful conversation, Michael and Malcolm break down the latest political developments, and discuss the rise and fall of Kristi Noem. Happy listening.

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