# Episode #2 Thinking Critically about Critical Thinking

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Podcast: [When Will They Learn?](https://stenobird.com/podcast/when-will-they-learn-7689880)
Published: 2026-02-19T19:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://whenwilltheylearn.substack.com/p/episode-2-when-will-they-learn
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## Resource

In this episode, Greg and Caiti take on the idea of ‘critical thinking’ in schools. They respond to a recent EducationHQ article on teaching critical thinking and unpack the assumptions behind calls to prioritise it in classrooms. They explore what ‘critical thinking’ actually means, whether it can be taught as a general skill, and what the evidence from cognitive science suggests. They then turn to a discussion paper published by the Sydney Social Sciences and Humanities Advanced Research Centre (SSSHARC) at the University of Sydney, examining broader critiques of ‘evidence-based practice’, where education research is argued to come from, and whether schooling and education are truly positioned in opposition to one another. Have something you want us to discuss in a future episode? Or want to find us? Get in touch Greg Ashman Greg is a school leader at Ballarat Clarendon College and holds a PhD in instructional design from UNSW. Substack – Filling the Pail LinkedIn – Greg Ashman X/Twitter – @greg_ashman If you’re interested in working with Greg at Ballarat Clarendon College, please see here for open roles and expressions of interest . Caiti Wade Caiti is a leader of pedagogy at a boys’ secondary school in Brisbane and is doing her EdD in applications of cognitive load theory to secondary mathematics. Substack – The Disruptive Educator LinkedIn – Caiti Wade X/Twitter – @caiti_wade Episode resources * Teaching kids critical thinking skills early may help ensure our future - EducationHQ * Hearing Educator Perspectives: From ‘Evidence-Based Practice’ to Valuing the ‘Enriched Evidence-Based Practice’ of Education Acknowledgement of country We would like to acknowledge The Traditional Custodians of the lands on which we record this podcast, the lands of the Wadawurrung Peop…

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