# Ep 173 with Johann Hari (Part 2)

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Podcast: [What The F Is Going On? with Mark Steel](https://stenobird.com/podcast/what-the-f-is-going-on-with-mark-steel-4026372)
Published: 2026-01-12T04:27:00+00:00
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## Resource

This week Mark continues his conversation with Johann. If you haven't heard the first part then do go back and listen now but for the rest of you here is the second half of the interview. If you enjoyed the subjects doscussed today why not purchase “Stolen Focus” and “Lost connections” at www.Johannhari.com Want to get access to the full video interview before anyone else? why not join us on Patreon? For £4 a month you can listen to the whole interview straight away – and you'll also be able to watch it! ⁠https://www.patreon.com/wtfisgoingonpod⁠ For media, press & guest enquiries please email mikey@carouselstudios.co.uk Follow What The F*** Is Going On? with Mark Steel on Twitter @wtfisgoingonpod Follow Mark Steel @mrmarksteel Follow Johann @johann.hari Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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