# The Minimum Viable Manager: A Practical Leadership Framework for First-Time Managers with Matt Gjertsen

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Published: 2026-04-23T08:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of What’s Possible, Ilene Schaffer sits down with leadership expert Matt Gjertsen, founder of Better Every Day Studios and author of the upcoming book Minimum Viable Manager, to explore what new managers actually need in order to lead well. Drawing from his experience in the Air Force, at SpaceX, and now in leadership development, Matt offers a simple but powerful framework for first-time managers and technical leaders: build trust, set expectations, and ask for better feedbac...

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