# Trump v. Pope

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Podcast: [What Really Matters with Walter Russell Mead](https://stenobird.com/podcast/what-really-matters-with-walter-russell-mead-6447442)
Published: 2026-04-22T17:40:00+00:00
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## Resource

This week, Walter and Jeremy discuss the Iran ceasefire and negotiations, the meaning of Japan's decision to open its military technology market, the global rise of clean energy sources and decline of coal, and how Pope Leo XIV's roots in Latin American Catholicism explain his particular distaste for Donald Trump. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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