# You Come at the Pope, You Best Not Miss

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Podcast: [What Next | Daily News and Analysis](https://stenobird.com/podcast/what-next-daily-news-and-analysis-73738)
Published: 2026-04-16T07:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In Pope Leo XIV, Donald Trump has finally run into someone he can’t silence, threaten, or sully. He’s not taking it gracefully.  Guest:  Christopher Hale, author of the “Letters from Leo” Substack , “a chronicle of how Pope Leo XIV’s papacy intersects with American politics, faith, and the digital age during the presidency of Donald Trump.” Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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