# Taking ICE to Court Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/what-next-daily-news-and-analysis-73738/taking-ice-to-court Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/what-next-daily-news-and-analysis-73738/taking-ice-to-court.md Podcast: [What Next | Daily News and Analysis](https://stenobird.com/podcast/what-next-daily-news-and-analysis-73738) Published: 2026-04-21T07:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/whatnext-daily-news-and-analysis/episodes/69e68b536eeb59e2ba8196b7 Audio file: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/6961268923ce58f14615840d/a/whatnext-podcasts/e/69e68b536eeb59e2ba8196b7/media.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/what-next-daily-news-and-analysis-73738/episodes/taking-ice-to-court Duration seconds: 1598 ## Resource During the Trump administration’s winter immigration surge, high-level officials assured ICE agents that they could act with impunity. But two different legal cases from Minnesota and Maine are finding ways to challenge the immunity they assumed they had as federal officers. Guest:  Mark Joseph Stern , senior staff writer at Slate covering courts and the law cohost of Amicus . Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/what-next-daily-news-and-analysis-73738/episodes/taking-ice-to-court/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/what-next-daily-news-and-analysis-73738/taking-ice-to-court.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.