# STURGEON'S FISHY TALE - Feat. Jon Kogan

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Podcast: [What Most People Think with Geoff Norcott](https://stenobird.com/podcast/what-most-people-think-with-geoff-norcott-872633)
Published: 2026-06-02T01:00:00+00:00
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Jon Kogan makes a welcome debut to WMPT this week. Jon works with a lot of guys on the 'dark side' of comedy and is also a lovely bloke. We got into the whiff about Nicola 'I'm not a victim' Sturgeon's tale of victimhood. We also briefly consider whether anyone will let Starmer speak in public again. Then it's onto discussing falling birth-rates, which ends up in a jaw-dropping revelation about Japanese game shows. In the Patron only section, we discuss exactly what Kemi Badenoch's 'Five C's' might be... CATCH ME ON MY TOUR ‘Basic Bloke 2: There’s No Bloke Without Fire’. Book tickets here: https://www.livenation.co.uk/geoff-norcott-tickets-adp1252793 JOIN the Podcast Patreon and receive each episode early, AD-FREE & with bonus content https://www.patreon.com/geoffnorcott?fan_landing=true Join my MAILING LIST for priority Tour booking & special offers https://signup.ymlp.com/xgyueuwbgmgb Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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