# What Came After: Live From Israel - Chapter 4: Nicole and Nissim

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Podcast: [What Came After](https://stenobird.com/podcast/what-came-after-6986229)
Published: 2026-03-08T19:45:25+00:00
Episode link: https://whatcameafter.podbean.com/e/what-came-after-live-from-israel-chapter-4-nicole-and-nissim/
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## Resource

In this chapter, Manya Marcus shares two interviews: the first takes place in a Tel Aviv bomb shelter with Nicole from Rome, who wonders if she would still have moved to Israel if she had known what life would be like for her and her children during a war. The second interview takes place in a bomb shelter in Rehovot with a man named Nissim. Nissim, who was born in Morocco and served for 28 years in the Israeli army before becoming a teacher, reflects on the reality of Jewish life in Morocco before his family fled to Israel, and explain why his name, which means "miracles", has such significance right now.

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