# The Bitcoin Bear Market Is a Survival Test | Matt Odell

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Podcast: [What Bitcoin Did](https://stenobird.com/podcast/what-bitcoin-did-255500)
Published: 2026-07-25T17:14:52+00:00
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## Resource

“Bear markets are actually more about survival.” Matt Odell is back on the show to explain why Bitcoin bear markets grind people down, why the fundamentals have not changed, and why he has never been more bullish on Bitcoin. In this episode, we discuss Jack Mallers stepping down from XXI, the risks of Bitcoin treasury companies, and why profitable businesses should save in Bitcoin rather than make financial engineering the product. We also get into Nostr’s failure to replace X, the continued need for open identity and private communications, and how open-source AI could make Bitcoin easier to use. Matt explains why AI agents will need permissionless money, why Lightning matters for privacy, and why strong families and local communities will become more important in an increasingly centralised world. THANKS TO OUR SPONSORS: ANCHORWATCH BLOCKWARE LEDN BITKEY SWAN CAPE FOLLOW: Danny Knowles: https://x.com/_DannyKnowles or https://primal.net/danny Matt Odell: https://x.com/ODELLXYZ or https://primal.net/odell Citadel Wire: https://citadelwire.com/

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