# 254. What If Your Pain is Trying to Tell You Something? with Kelly McCann | Jane Hogan

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Podcast: [Wellness By Design](https://stenobird.com/podcast/wellness-by-design-4066410)
Published: 2026-04-29T10:30:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 3023

## Resource

What if your symptoms weren't something to fight… but something to understand? Join me and my guest, Dr. Kelly McCann, MD, MPH, functional medicine expert and creator of The Unforgetting Project, to explore a deeply transformative approach to chronic pain, autoimmune conditions and holistic health. We go beyond traditional pain reduction strategies and uncover why addressing only the physical body often isn't enough for true healing. 👉 Download my free guide to understand why pain persists: https://www.thewellnessengineer.com/whypainpersists Struggling with sleep? Wear blue-light-blocking glasses in the evening to help prepare your nervous system for better sleep. Save 10% at Vivarays with this link: https://vivarays.com/bydesign In this episode, you'll learn: ⏰ 00:00 - Introduction ⏰ 02:40 - The Unforgetting Project ⏰ 10:14 - Understanding the Body's Language ⏰ 14:27 - The Role of Emotions in Health ⏰ 22:45 - Shifting Perspectives on Pain and Healing ⏰ 29:46 - Understanding Emotions and Their Impact ⏰ 40:47 - Reframe symptoms as a message from your body Check out Kelly McCann's Bio: Kelly K. McCann, MD, MPH is a triple board-certified physician in Internal Medicine, Pediatrics, and Integrative Medicine, with additional certifications in Functional Medicine and Medical Acupuncture. She is the founder of The Spring Center in Costa Mesa, California, where she specializes in complex chronic illness, including Mast Cell Activation Syndrome, mold and mycotoxin illness, Lyme disease, and environmentally acquired conditions. Dr. McCann has hosted multiple international summits on MCAS and allergy-related illness and serves on the boards of the American Academy of Environmental Medicine and was a founding Board member of the International Society for Environmentally Acquired I…

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