# LIVING AS A PORTAL OF PRESENCE, Pt 4: The Authentic Presence that Allows

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Podcast: [WeBeTheChange: Conversations with Evolutionaries](https://stenobird.com/podcast/webethechange-conversations-with-evolutionaries-7249413)
Published: 2025-12-05T03:23:16+00:00
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## Resource

Must embodying authentic Presence have to look like the Mona Lisa? Welcome to the final segment of our series, LIVING AS A PORTAL OF PRESENCE: The Inner Work that Changes the Outer World . In this soulful yet earthy conversation, host Colleen Akiko and spiritual counselor, Brenda Heldoorn explore the internal struggle of navigating global and personal chaos while staying anchored in love. They explore some under-the-surface questions, like: How do I witness the dialogue between my fearful Head and my knowing Heart ? What's the difference between forgiving and pardoning someone? How can I transform an unfriendly inner reaction? What is the "activity of truth" for me? Can I shift from fear to forgiveness--without minimizing my pain? Whether you’re seeking clarity, connection, or a spark of hope, We Be The Change introduces you to everyday people who are creating a brighter, more compassionate world. Thanks for your engagement! Feel free to reach out for your complimentary eGuide , Out of Your Head, Into Your Light at SongRise.LIVE . And remember: your own inner shift is a beautiful and mighty catalyst for outer change.

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