# Kevin Kisner On Masters CBS Controversy, Mickelson Hanging With Presidents, and TGL with Tiger

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Podcast: [We Need A Fourth](https://stenobird.com/podcast/we-need-a-fourth-7481629)
Published: 2026-05-04T07:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Kevin Kisner has never been accused of holding back. The four-time PGA Tour winner, NBC analyst, and Tiger's TGL teammate joins Brian, Cooper, and Kenny for one of the best episodes we've had. Kiz on what actually happened on the first tee at the Presidents Cup when Phil Mickelson was hanging with three former presidents. His take on the Masters CBS controversy and whether he regrets it. What Tiger is really like when the cameras aren't on. Plus: losing three playoffs in the same year, why the ball rollback is a terrible idea, and what Charlie Hoffman said to him mid-tournament at Bay Hill that he'll never forget.

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