# Episode 46 - The Radical Joy of Avoiding Dysfunctional Success

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Podcast: [We Are Out of Office](https://stenobird.com/podcast/we-are-out-of-office-7089990)
Published: 2025-12-16T16:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://we-are-out-of-office.captivate.fm
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## Resource

In this week's Episode 46 of We Are Out of Office, your co-hosts Television Exec Producer ( Night Agent ) Nikki T and Bestselling Author Jayne Allen keep the group chat virtual and delusional as usual, catching you up, bringing food for thought and food for your soul. Tune in for a heartfelt conversation filled with laughter and insights. The ladies are back with their regular segments, centering a theme in this week's episode of avoiding being what they call "Dysfunctionally Successful" after learning the lessons of the stunning fallout of Sherrone Moore's firing. In this engaging conversation, Nikki T and Jayne Allen explore a variety of themes, from the joy of holiday music (and the disturbing history of one of our favorite songs) to the importance of long-form expression in today's media landscape. They discuss the historical context of "Jingle Bells," celebrate trailblazers like Jennifer Jones, and delve into the significance of supporting black-owned businesses. The conversation also touches on personal health, the challenges of success, and the need for healing in a fast-paced world. With humor and insight, they reflect on their experiences and share their hopes for the new year of 2026 to come. Learn about: Robert Glasper's version of 'Joy to the World' is a favorite. The origins of 'Jingle Bells' that reveals an uncomfortable truth. Lizzo's new Substack in a brave move to long-form. How Jennifer Jones broke barriers as the first black Rockette. The Harlem Candle Company and its unique Holiday gift offerings. The Innovative dental care that can change our brushing habits. What to Expect in Season 2 of the Telepathy Tapes Podcast How Humming can stimulate the vagus nerve and promote calmness. What it means to be "Dysfunctionally Successful" and how to avoid it T…

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